mamiT qarTveli da dediT poloneli kote kaiSauri, gasuli wlis eiforiuli stumrobis Semdeg welsac ewvia saqarTvelos. Tumca, masac, rogorc bevr sxva qarTvels, Tu ucxoel turists da biznesmens, Svebulebis miwuruls SarSandeli agvistos mware dReebi ergo. magram sxvebisagan gansxvavebiT, mas arc SarSan SeSinebia arsebuli situaciis gamo da SvedeTSi darCenil col-Svils xumrobiTac amxneebda. mas bileTis gadacvlac ki surda, rom TbilisSi dagegmilze met xans darCeniliyo. misi dis, ciala kaiSauris ojaxi Zalian ganicdida, rom maincdamainc monatrebuli adamianis stumrobas agvistos omi daemTxva da amis gamo misi gamgzavrebis problema gaCnda.
Saomari moqmedebebis dawyebamde sul ramdenime dRiT adre Sevxvdi mas da 30 wliani ganSorebis Semdeg samSobloSi stumrad myofi yofili moWadrake, amJamad Sveduri kompiuteruli firmis wamyvani specialisti, aRfrTovanebas ver malavda galamazebuli Tbilisis xilviT. magram mis maxvil Tvals arc mniSvnelovani kontrastebi gamorCenia. aman namdvilad gaaoca. verafriT aexsna, rogor SeiZleba erT qalaqSi amdeni mdidari da amave dros amdeni Raribi cxovrodes.
`Tu qveyanaSi ekonomikuri krizisia, maSin saidan aqvs xalxs amdeni fuli, rom restornebi yoveldRe savsea, an amdeni ZviradRirebuli manqana aseT Rarib qveyanaSi rogor SeiZleba iyos? ratom aris sazogadoeba ase or fenad dayofili da ratom gansxvavdeba erTmaneTisagan Tbilisis sxvadasxva ubnebi?~_es kiTxvebi ar asvenebda maSin kote kaiSaurs. magram misi STabeWdileba mainc imdenad didi da emociuri iyo, rom survili gauCnda, rac SeiZleba met Sved biznesmens, an turists enaxa es ulamazesi qveyana, Tavisi saocari bunebiT da romantiuli adgilebiT. es idea jer isev ganuxorcielebeli darCa. Tumca, misi TanamSromlebiT dakompleqtebuli Rvinis moyvarulTa jgufs igi saqarTveloSi maisSi Camoyva da 4 dRe maTTan erTad kaxeTSi gahyva. Semdeg ki erTi kviriT isev TbilisiT isiamovna.
amjeradac, Cveni Sexvedra isev misi pirvelskoleli klaselis, malxaz radianis iniciativiT, isev misi dis ojaxSi Sedga. batoni kote axlac karg xasiaTze damxvda. Tumca, interviuze mokrZalebulad uars ambobda. ratomRac egona, rom saTqmeli araferi hqonda. Sveduri andazac ki moiSvelia: roca saTqmeli araferi gaqvs, ecade araferi Tqvao. magram Cveni saubari, vfiqrob, mainc saintereso gamovida.
_rogorc vxedav, welsac aRfrTovanebuli xarT da saxlSi dabruneba giWirT. wels ufro meti ram naxeT albaT, raime gansxvaveba Tu aris SarSandel ganwyobasTan SedarebiT?
_ msgavsebac aris da gansxvebac. SarSan mxolod Tbilissa da raWaSi viyavi. wels ki meti adgilis naxva movaxerxe. maisSi kaxeTs vewvieT. lagodexSi gaxldiT. Semdeg zRvazec viyavi gonioSi. liana isakaZis orkestris saRamoebzec didad visiamovne. ra Tqma unda, baTumic vnaxe. Cems sayvarel uweraSi ulamazesi adgilebi davaTvaliere. aq iseTi harmonia vigrZeni, rogorc arsad Cems sicocxleSi. zRvisa da mTis Serwymac araCveulebrivi iyo. didad visiamovne curviTac. erTaderTi, rac mawuxebda, es xmauriani musika iyo.
_es aqamde mxolod qobuleTisTvis iyo damaxasiaTebeli. gonioSic analogiuri problemaa?!
_amboben, qobuleTSi uaresiao. CemTvis es saSineleba iyo. SauRameze meRviZeboda da dilis 5 saaTamde ver viZinebdiT. axlos raRac diskoTeka yofila barSi, autaneli iyo amis mosmena. magram TiTqos veravin amCnevda. mxolod me da Cemi musikosi megobari nodar Jvania ganvicdidiT amas. meubnebodnen, rom me ar viyavi amas miCveuli da imitom mawuxebda.
_nodar Jvaniac didi xania evropaSi cxovrobs da misTisac imitom iqneboda uCveulo...
_diax. amitomac male goniodan ufro wynar adgilas, kvariaTSi gadavida.
_cudi amindebi SegxvdaT, rogorc gavige. Tqvenma diSvilma isic miTxra, rom aRelvebul zRvaSi did xans ar CandiT da maSvelebic aaforiaqeT. ramdenime adamianic gadagirCeniaT...
_zRva imdenad miyvars, CemTvis aminds mniSvneloba ara aqvs. me ar vaqcevdi amas yuradrebas, mxolod naTesavebi da maSvelebi nerviulobdnen. erTi adgilas rom Sevcuravdi, mogvianebiT sxva napirze gamovdiodi da mudmivad satucavebis gareSe vrCebodi, an napirze diSvilTan erTad vpoulobdi. me visargeble SemTxveviT, rom meuRle ar maxlda da am mxriv Cems Tavs sruli Tavisufleba mivaniWe. ase mgonia 20 wliT gavvaxalgazrdavdi kidev! (icinis).
_SarSan ukve gegmavdiT, rom wels ojaxTan erTad CamoxvidodiT, ratom mogiwiaT isev marto dasveneba?
_samwuxarod, amjeradac marto Camovedi. iseT qeyanaSi vcxovrob, sadac gadawyvetilebebs Svilebi iReben da ara mSoblebi. Cems 16 wlis Svils jer ver gaubedavs misTvis ucxo samSobloSi Camosvla, radgan enis barieri abrkolebs. Tumca, me vuxsi, rom saqarTveloSi misi asakis adamainebi inglisurad ufro kargad saubroben, vidre rusulad. Mme ki ukve ver warmomidgenia saqarTvelos gareSe. Cemi klaselebi sakmaod cnobili adamianebi arian. Cven mudmivad vikribebiT erTad. roca sufrasTan Cems sadRegrZelos svamen, xumroben kidec, rom kote ki ar Camodis, midiso. es Taflad damedo gulze.
_anu, ukve miaCniaT, rom aq xarT da zogjer midixarT-xolme... magram SarSan Tqven aRniSneT, rom aRfrTovanebis miuxedavad, gagaocaT kontrastebma. wels aris gansxvaveba?
_kolosaluri kontrasti momxvda TvalSi. gansxavebuli fenebi da saSualo fena naklebad Cans. wels ki mgonia, rom Rariebis raodeoba, ramac SarSan gamaogna, kidev ufro gaizarda. meore mxriv, megona krizisi ufro metad TvalSisacemi iqneboda. magram es ver SevniSne. SesaZloa aRiniSnos mxolod is, rom restornebSi TiTqos ufro naklebi xalxi vnaxe wels. Tumca, erT-orjer iseT restoranSic movxvdi, sadac adgilebi ar iyo.
CemTvis rTulia amis aRqma, miTumetes, rom SvedeTSi sxva viTarebaa. kargia galamazebuli Tbilisis daTvaliereba. magram aucilebelia prioritetebis gansazRvra qveyanaSi. me politikosi ara var da arc eqsperti. amitom ar SemiZlia, xelisuflebas raime vurCio. magram aSkaraa, rom socialuri sfero pirvel rigSia misaxedi. gasagebia, rom gardamavali periodia da samwuxarod, sxva araferi SemiZlia, garda Soridan dakvirvebisa.
yvelaze metad rac maocebs, Zalian bevri produqti saqarTveloSi or-samjer Zviria, vidre SveciaSi. wels ufro meti aseTi ucnauri gansxvaveba vnaxe. mdidar adamianebs bevri fufunebis saSualeba aqvT. magram CemTvis sruliad gaugebaria, rogor cxovrobs saSualo fena Tvidan Tvemde. is fasadi, rac aris, investorebisa da turistebis mosazidad, es SeiZleba aucilebelicaa. magram bevrs aRaSfoTebs. balansirebis saSualebas da SeTavsebas ver vxedav. SesaZleblobebis konfliqti SeiniSneba. SeiZleba raime seriozuli darigebis saSualeba arc me maqvs, Cemi mokrZalebuli xasiaTidan gamomdinarec. magaram 50 welze meti gavatare saqarTvelos gareT, jer poloneTSi, bolo 40 weli ki SveciaSi vcxovrob da amdenad, garkveuli cxovrebiseuli gamocdileba mainc damigrovda. survili gulwrfelia, rom raime daxmareba SemeZlos Cemi qveynisa da axloblebisaTvis da rac mTavaria imisa, rom momaval wels ufro ukeTesobisken Secvlili damxvdes saqarTvelo.
wels ki isev im SiSiT mivdivar SveciaSi, rom mTeli weli isev SarSandeli gancda dameufleba nostalgiisa. erTi wlis winac mqonda amis molodini, rom damakldeboda Tbilisi, miTumetes aseTi aRmafrenisa da STagonebis Semdeg, rac ormocwliani ganSorebis Semdeg TbilisTan Sexvedram gamoiwvia.
_anu momaval gamgzavrebamde, isev samSoblos nostalgia dageuflebaT?
_diax, sworad gamoTqviT, momaval gamgzavrebamde da ara Camosvlamde! didi survili maqvs, rom saqarTvelodan mxolod cota xniT mivdiode da ZiriTadad aq vcxovrobde. miTumetes, arc ise didi materialuri moTxovnebis adamiani var, ase mgonia. magram roca ojaxi gyavs, es SeuZlebeli xdeba, am etapze mainc.
_miTumetes, iciT, rom is Semosavali, rac SveciaSi gaqvs, aq ar geqnebaT, fasebi ki iq gacilebiT dabalia, garkveul produqtebze mainc...
_diax, swored es aris mizezi imisa, rom amis SesaZleblobas verafriT ver vxedav. verc Cems adgils am qveyanaSi. Torem gancda ucnauri damokidebulebisa sakuTari qveynisadmi, imdenad Zlieri da erTmniSvnelovania, rom vimyofebi samyaros centrSi, yvelaferi sxva azrs da elfers kargavs.
p.s. ase ganicdian samSoblosTan cota xniT ganSorebas didi xnis win ucxo qveynebSi gadaxvewili qarTvelebi. amasobaSi ki saqarTvelodan emigraciis talRa sul ufro izrdeba. sakonsuloebSi rigebisa da procentiani valebis gareSe, SedarebiT iafi, magram arausafrTxo gzis Sesaxeb giambobT momdevno reportaJSi da im adamianebis mdgomareobas gagacnobT, romlebic safrangeTis erT lamaz da naklebadcnobil qalaqSi frangebma Seikedles. magram ra bedi ewevaT arasrulwlovani bavSvebiT TavSesafris maZiebel ojaxebs, jer aravin icis. radgan safrangeTSi qarTvelebsa da ukrainelebs prioritetad Tvlian da TavSesafris miniWebas urTuleben.
